can anyone please help me??? please i need advise ?
were do i start???
i have a collie Kaci, n shes now 11 months,
n amazin n smart, n jus so human like 
shes quick to adjust, n knows not to go toilet in the house, which is great!! but i also have another boy collie, Kodi…..3 months old, we got him cuz he was going to a shelter, n would be put down……!!
im very patient, as is my gf! im more relaxed i have to say, now since we got this dog kodi i have to say,
hes very bold, my gf has smacked him, n put his nose in to his dirt / wizz, n put him on paper, it still hasnt wrked,
he shits everywherr but the paper……!! coming up to the winter now, we have the dogs inside, cuz in ireland its horrilely cold .. so the dogs are in our room, but…. we have left the dogs unattended for an hour or less, n come home n kodi, well……………………..shits on the bed, even tho there is paper down,
he ate threw our extension lead that cost 70euro,
last night we went the shop n came home (10mins max) he shit on the bed, n everywhere, my gf went like CRAZY, its upsetting me, but i love him, even tho hes so bold, i hate her hittin him, i have sat her down n said, dnt smack dogs jus punish them, so we put him in the shed out back
n my gf rang me an hour ago n said…
”ive had enough, kodi is ata shittin on the bed again, chewing her laptop wire n charger wire”
how i dunno, there not even in site, i never had this problem with kaci, ever, i toldher not to lose the rag, n put him out back n she did, why is he like this, there both well looked after 
n equally treated! noone gets more praise than the other.
wat do i do??
he shits everywhere, couches, bed, carpet… ive smacked, punished him, n nothing is happening, anyone advise please!! im patient, but hes costing us a bomb,
wire leads, laptop lead, charger,
bed covers, sheets, mats, duvet !!
thanks 4 all yr answers appericated x
Posted in 
Tags: 21 Responses to “can anyone please help me??? please i need advise ?”
Leave a Reply
Don’t punish him, attempt to reward his good behavior as well
Think of your dog as a little child
I would suggest you read a couple of books and watch some videos on raising and training dogs. Also, I recommend two TV shows, “The Dog Whisperer” with Cesar Millan on the National Geographic Channel, and “It’s Me or the Dog,” with Victoria Stillwell, on Animal Planet. Both programs are very instructive and often deal with the issues you raise here. Good luck!
you might have to take him to a trainer it will probably cost less in the long run
first i would like to say its great that you took in a dog that was going to be put down
second learn to spell the words out its so dam hard to read it
third ….. your gf is a ass if she slaps a dog .. THAT ISNT TEACHING YOUR DOG ANYTHING THAT IS MAKING YOUR DOG BE AFRAID OF YOU …..
forth …how about you actually treat it nicely first and show it where to go .. and command them to pee when you are outside and phrase them when they do and give them a treat so they know thats the right… place they are YOUNG .. what did you expect!
buy that spray thing that is for dogs to not poop around wur u sprayed it at
take him to ur vet about how u shud train him ur other dog was obviously easy t train but all dogs are different
dont let him in ur room put him in front room or sumat
ur gf is out of order hitting him it ent his fault
get rid of the dog.and that get another one when u think u are stable enough to handle the dog.
Try using a squirt bottle of cold water to squirt him when he’s bad. You could also try obedience school. And i’ve heard of a product that you spray on the things that he chews on and it’s really sour so the dogs it. If all else fails try once more with the obediance school and hope for the best. Good luck!
Sounds like you need to puppy proof your house, keep you puppy in one room if you are trying to paper train him, this way there wont be mess anywhere else in the house and your dog will become more familiar with that one area and become more relaxed in his surroundings….since hes a pound dog its possible hes missed out on that essential first weeks of toilet training (at 5-8 weeks) so its going to be a bit harder to toilet train him….but he will eventually get there…hes just a bit slow is all
Collies are working/ herding dogs that need a lot of exercise! Obviously he needs to be taken out more often since he’s not old enough to hold it yet. A lot of hyper dogs seem to take a little longer. But he’s only 3 months! If he’s chewing electronics- crate him so he’s safe. Your dog has a ton of energy and needs chew toys and more space than one room. He needs to burn off his energy so take him to a dog park and/or and walk/ jog 1-2 miles a day with him.
Unless you catch the dog WHILE it’s misbehaving then he won’t really understand what he’s doing wrong. He’s jut a baby and needs to go out every 2 hours until his organs grow big enough for him to hold it longer.
I have no idea what you just said
First off, Kodi is still a puppy. These are behaviors to be expected with a young pup.
Secondly, you can’t compare Kodi to Kaci….they are two entirely different dogs. Some dogs respond better to different forms of training and discipline than others.
To start, try wrapping up any wires and placing them out of reach from Kodi…for his safety and your sanity. Running the wires through PVC piping is an option, as is spraying them with bitter apple. In any case, Kodi should be crated when you aren’t around to supervise so that he doesn’t get into anything that could hurt him.
When it comes to toilet training, the paper can hurt you. For some dogs this type of preliminary training actually encourages in-home elimination. Get rid of the paper, and start taking him outside at regular intervals. Praise and reward him when he eliminates outside, and clean all indoor accidents with an enzymatic cleanser that elminates his scent.
Don’t give up yet. This is just a hurdle.
Poor confused dog! You have to stop and look at things from your dogs point of view. First off he is a Collie, a working breed and by the sounds of it he is shut in the house and given nothing to do. He is obviously stressed and very confused. Your girlfriend should back off and go read a good book on dog training. You need to address your dogs needs i.e. exercise, training, kindness, patience, guidance etc. If you don’t know what you are doing you would be better contacting a Collie Rescue and rehoming him before you do him anymore damage psychologically. You definitely need some professional advice and guidance anyway. Sorry to be so abrupt but you have to put the dog first here.
Do not EVER punish the dog. Its you as the owners fault for this behavior. Research getting him a Kennel/Crate and you can retrain him that way. He has no clue what he is supposed to do apparently. Get a crate accordingly to his size as dogs dont like to potty where they sleep. Then take him out every couple hours until he is better trained. You can give him his freedom if he goes outside and pottys. Take baby steps and PLEASE dont punish him he has no clue.. you are only adding fear in his mind about people. He wasnt born with the intelligence of a person so please remember he is a dog.. they have brains of a two year old child.
I have the exact same problem with my dog. I ALSO tried everything from smacking to ignoring, and nothing, I mean NOTHING helped. Those are the dogs that you just have to deal with the chewing. My advice with the chewing problem is just don’t leave ANYTHING that he can get to. And don’t smack him anymore, it doesn’t work on severe cases like that. I would suggest getting a kennel that you can keep him in when you guys leave.
As for the pooping everywhere, everytime he does it, show it to him, tell him “NO!”, and take him to a spot outside where he can go. Whenever he shits in the house, take the shit to an outside spot, that’s where you show him that it’s okay to shit there. Oh, try washing the spots that he shits with pine sol, or something similar, to get the smell out. Just have patience. He’s just a pup. Good luck!
Go back to school!!!
please stop hitting your puppy. he cannot control his bladder properly until he is 6 months old.. he is only a baby. if a human baby wasnt wearing a nappy and it had a wee or poo on the carpet, would you smack it. your gf shouldnt put his face in his wee or poo, it will teach him to be scared of her and you, and he will go to the toilet where you wont see. please give him to someone who will care for him properly.
DO NOT HIT THE DOG!
that is the worst thing that you could do. dogs have a funny way of doing things.
if you put a shock collar on a dog, they will do whatever makes the shock collar go off. they a dumb in that sense. so if you smack the dog then it will just keep doing it.
about the chewing.
your dog kodi, is a puppy and his canines are now coming in. he will chew on EVERYTHING. my dog when she was a puppy, would chew on flower pots, and tables, and anything.
so get your dogs a lot of rawhide bones, and balls, and chew toys. if he keeps chewing on the cords, then put hot sauce on everything that he chews on. he will learn that if he chews on something that looks like that, then his mouth will be on fire. When you do catch her dog chewing on something is not supposed to you need to train him to know that this behavior is not acceptable. speaking to him in a sharp tone of giving him a MILD tap and taking the object away can work wonders if you are persistent. yelling at the dog and hitting him or any other kind of harsh punishment will be counterproductive so it is best to avoid this type of behavior no matter how frustrated you are with your dogs actions.
about the going to the bathroom everywhere
first thing you do is to set fixed times for kodi to go to the bathroom. usually these times will be when he wakes up, after he eats and before going to sleep at night. in any case, make sure you consistently take him outside to go to the bathroom at fixed times. this means that feeding him at fixed times is going to be required.
second, create an association for kodi to realize that it is time to go to the bathroom. for example, you can use a certain hand signal each time before you take the him, or you can use a verbal command.
the third step in the potty training process is to make sure to consistently take him to the same spot to go to the bathroom. what youre doing is conditioning him to go to the bathroom by taking him to the same spot to go to the bathroom every time. just like any other type of dog training, potty training requires commands. when you tell a dog to sit, it sits if you have trained it properly. if you give them a command to go the bathroom they will know that it is okay. so once you take him outside, give them a command to go the bathroom.
finally, give him positive reinforcement after he has done the necessary. let him know what a good dog he are and how you are proud of him. you can even give him a treat the first few times he does it correctly so that he get the point.
dog potty training isnt a very hard concept to understand. however, the most important thing is to be disciplined to be consistent with your efforts. this means consistently taken him out the same time, to the same spot, with the same command and always positively reinforcing good behavior.
Hope this helps!
It sounds like to need to do some serious training with the dog, and the girlfriend. Hitting an animal is NEVER the answer. As the others have said you need to look into training options for the dog, and it would help i think for your girlfriend to understand exactly how a dogs mind works and receive some advice from the trainer also. The chewing sounds like he is bored, try some brain exercises like hiding the food, so she has to ‘hunt’ for it. They are working dogs also so doing some obedience or agility training will also keep her from being soo bored when your not home… You cannot expect a smooth transition with a rescued dog, (i have two also) .
Disipline wise the best thing (dogs get it) you can do to a dog when it’s naughty is completely ignore it. – no eye contact – nothing.
You could try crating him while you’re not home. He won’t want to go in his crate. Then the second you get home, rush him outside and stay there for five minutes. If he doesn’t go, then take him inside for thirty minutes and watch him super closely. When thirty minutes is up, take him outside again for another five minutes. Repeat as necessary. If he starts to go inside then say no firmly and rush him outside. If he finishes going praise him.
Whenever he does it outside give him a special treat like a bit of an apple of carrot.
About your girlfriend, you really need to talk to her and tell her to do this and this when your dog goes to the bathroom. YOU DO NOT HIT A DOG! YOU ALSO DO NOT STICK THEIR NOSE IN THEIR POOP! THAT IS CRUELTY TO DOGS!
If this doesn’t work out, then maybe you need a professional trainer.
Good luck! Hope you’re successful!
He is bored, and now untrained, and you’re going to have to put some serious effort and time into training him properly. But it can be done.
First, please read up on proper crate training. The crate should be the right size for him – just big enough for him to stand, turn around, and lie down comfortably. It should be sturdy enough so he doesn’t eat his way out of it and injure himself in the process. Make absolutely sure it is not too small – not hitting his head or crouching. He needs to spend some time in it when he is not being supervised directly.
First, he needs to be taken out of the crated and *walked* before you re-enter the house, and make sure he has peed and pooped before you come in – keep track of when he poops, so you know what and when to expect it, and keep a chart for a while so you know when he has been out of his crate. You aren’t doing this to make him a caged animal, but to retrain him.
You’ll also need to clean everywhere he has soiled so the odor does not linger – for now, to him it says “PEE HERE”. Get some enzymatic cleaner and clean it all up – you may need a Woods lamps, available at many pet supply stores. It’s basically a black light which will make any stains glow if they are not neutralized.
When you come back in from your walk, for now, tie the leash to your belt loop, and keep him with you, with the training chain on him so you can give him a snap if he starts to lift his leg. THIS IS TO BE THE ONLY FORM OF DISCIPLINE. No hitting, no tapping (that’s hitting, too), no shocking. If your roommate strikes the dog any more, inform her that she will be reported for animal cruelty. Period. Because that is what it is.
When he is in the house with you, have him sit or lie down next to you, and tell him he’s a good dog when he is – every time for now. You need to explain to him what pleases you, not just what doesn’t. Be very specific, don’t be afraid to explain it to him in happy tones and in a conversation manner – Collies are very smart, and he does know what you are saying.
Make sure he goes out for several walks each day, and if possible, take him out to the fields to run – a tired dog is a happy dog. Bored herding dogs get into trouble.
Make sure you get him on a schedule, and work with him to give him something to DO – if you are in the kitchen, have him do sits and downs, and practice often. You need to keep his interest.
If you do theses simple things, and train him, he will have more attention on you than on wandering aorund peeing in the house – and have him drag the leash for a while, even when you think he is more trustworthy. You want to be able to grab him quickly before he makes another mistake.
Get yourself a copy of “What All Good Dogs SHould Know”, a very easy to read basic training book – and make sure your roommate reads it as well. It’s a fun book, and only has what you need to know – it’s actually quite funny and will help explain what you’re trying to do.
And if all of this doesn’t get you to the point where he can live politely in your home, please look for a trainer to help you – fast, and if that doesn’t work, look up Collie Rescue.
Shock collars, by the way, have their uses, but never on any dog under 6 months, and never in untrained hands. Other wise it is cruelty.
Oh, and the other good usefor them is on trolls.